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新加坡私人公寓的阳台是不是不可以封起来?

看到中国一般都会把阳台用玻璃封起来,可以扩大家里面积。

可是新加坡好像不可以这样,我看有人住公寓,家里三个阳台,没有一个封起来的。

是不是新加坡有法律规定不可以私自用玻璃封阳台啊?


很旧的公寓可能可以,比较新的一般不行,因为不能影响整体外观,做什么都要物业批准,比如安窗花也要统一样式和颜色,一楼能不能安顶棚也要业主大会通过同意才行。


谢谢,刚才也打电话问了中介,也是说要申请物业,只要他们同意就可以,但是中介说一般他们不会同意。


新公寓99.99%不会同意的

也因为这样,你看新加坡私宅大多在住了很多年以后外观看起来还是美观的,不像国内住宅楼,新的挺漂亮,住几年外观就一塌糊涂了。


这倒是,新加坡每隔几年还要粉刷呢,不管公寓还是祖屋,都会粉刷,所以当然漂亮啦,


以前刚来新加坡抱怨这里的房子大多数没有阳台
现在倒好了,发展商拼命的弄阳台,客厅有,主人房有,common room有的也有。
这也就算了,连A/C ledge也是超级宽敞的
花花草草也没有忘记,planter也是必需的
baywindow也是必需的,连卫生间都有


按法律说,房子内的装修其实都要经过公寓管理层的批准。房子外的(包裹阳台)只要会影响外观,除了公寓管理层,还需要BCA(Building & Construction Authority)的批准。


是啊,planter我家有两个,客厅阳台有一个,主人房卫生间也有一个,客厅那个可以种郁金香之类的花啦(如果新加坡可以种郁金香的话),卫生间那个planter我看最好种菜了,


难怪很少看到新加坡有人封阳台的,原来审批这么严格


BAYWINDOW和PLANTER BOX原来是不计算在总建筑面积(GFA) 但发展商可以以套内面积原价卖给买家,发展商因此大力植入这两个东西,终致民怨,于是URA在2009年修改了条规,将BAYWINDOW和PLANTER BOX纳入总建筑面积(GFA)计算中,条规修改以后的住宅设计,BAYWINDOW和PLANTER BOX这两者无法使发展商获益,因此大为减少。

详见:

http://www.ura.gov.sg/circulars/text/dc08-17.htm

Circular No : URA/PB/2008/17-DCD
Our Ref : DC/ADMIN/CIRCULAR/PB_08
Date : 07 Jul 2008
Fax: 6227 4792
CIRCULAR TO PROFESSIONAL INSTITUTES

CHANGES TO GROSS FLOOR AREA (GFA) EXEMPTION GUIDELINES –
GFA TO INCLUDE
(1) BAY WINDOWS IN ALL DEVELOPMENTS; AND
(2) PLANTER BOXES WITHIN A RESIDENTIAL UNIT

(Please refer to the additional circular in URA/PB/2008/18-DCD dated 22 Sep 08, for the latest update.)
Objective
This circular explains the changes to the GFA exemption with regard to bay windows and planter boxes for residential developments

Effective Date
With effect from 07 Oct 2008 [revised effective date: 01 Jan 2009]

Who should know
Qualified Persons (QPs), Developers, Home Buyers, Property Consultants

Background
Currently, bay windows and planter boxes are exempted from GFA and sold as internal spaces of a residential unit. There is a need to review the GFA exemption for bay windows as they have been found to have contributed significantly to the building bulk, affect the design of buildings and generally do not encourage energy efficiency.

Bay windowsBay windows were originally exempted from GFA because these were viewed as raised window ledges and not part of the floor slab. Over the years, the height of the bay window ledge was relaxed and allowed to be lowered to 0.5m from the floor slab. This has effectively made the bay window a usable internal space, no different from the rest of the floor space of the unit.Increasingly, we are seeing a proliferation of bay windows among the newer residential developments with the buildings virtually wrapped around by bay windows. Often the provision of bay windows is intended mainly to increase the saleable strata space. In order to overcome the standard bay window façade appearance, some architects have resorted to provide cladding to hide the bay windows. The result is that this feature adds immense ‘bulk’ to a building and influences the design outcome of developments.In addition, the extensive use of bay windows will lead to higher heat transfer into buildings and increase the need for air-conditioning to cool the building. BCA has advised that many existing residential buildings with extensive bay windows are found to exceed the prescribed Residential Envelope Transmittance Value (RETV) of 25W/m2. The extensive provision of bay windows therefore runs counter to the objective of encouraging energy efficient building design and sustainability.

Planter BoxesThe objective of planter boxes is to encourage residents living in flats and condominiums to provide some vertical greenery to help create visual relief to our high-density living environment. However, feedback and our investigations have revealed extensive unauthorised conversions of planter boxes within residential units for use as a balcony space or an extension of the living room instead. This defeats the purpose of giving GFA exemptions for the planter boxes to encourage vertical greenery in the first place.URA has also received feedback that flat owners (i.e. the end users) are unhappy that they are not allowed to convert the planter boxes, which are part of their strata space, to other uses since they have paid for the space when they bought the unit. Others are not interested in planting, while some found the planter boxes restrictive and impractical to maintain the plants. As planter boxes are exempted from GFA, any conversion to other uses will involve additional GFA and payment of development charge for which the owner may not be prepared to pay.
Changes
It is apparent that exempting bay windows and planter boxes from GFA has led to the unintended and undesirable consequences mentioned above. It has unwittingly shifted market behaviours and negated the objective of the GFA exemptions for these building features. As such, our review has concluded that bay windows and planter boxes should no longer be exempted from GFA.URA will leave it to the developers and building owners to decide if they wish to continue to provide bay windows and planter boxes for their residential developments so long as these building features are counted as GFA1. The industry will have a free hand to design and provide these building features based on their commercial considerations as there will no longer be restrictions on the size of bay windows and planter boxes. Planter boxes that are provided within the balcony can be treated as part of the 10% bonus balcony GFA. This revision will allow architects and developers to have more flexibility in the design of their buildings and internal spaces.
Exceptions
Planter Boxes within communal areas & non-residential developments
Planter boxes provided within non-residential developments (eg. commercial, hotel, business parks, etc), as well as those located within the communal areas of residential developments (e.g. as part of sky terraces, or along common corridors), will however continue to be GFA exempted. Our review has shown that these areas are typically well-planted and maintained by the MCST for the benefit of all occupants of the development. Communal skyrise greenery in particular has been shown to be more effective in achieving greenery for the city.
Implementation
The revised guidelines on bay windows and planter boxes will take effect 3 months from the date of release of this circular (ie, 07 Oct 08) [revised effective date: 01 Jan 2009] and will apply to all new development applications for new erection, amendment and A&A received on or after the effective date. Only formal development applications (which do not include Outline Applications) with a valid PP issued prior to the effective date will continue to be evaluated under the old GFA guidelines.For approved developments with approved bay windows and planters exempted from GFA, these approved spaces will remain as GFA exempted until the buildings are redeveloped.I would appreciate it if you could convey the contents of this circular to the relevant members of your organisation. If you or your members have any queries concerning this circular, please do not hesitate to call our DCD Enquiry Line at Tel: 6223 4811 or e-mail us at [email protected]. We would be pleased to answer queries on this, and any other development control matter. For your information, the past circulars to the professional institutes are available from our website http://www.ura.gov.sg.

Thank you.

HAN YONG HOE
DIRECTOR (DEVELOPMENT CONTROL)
for CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER
URBAN REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY

1 The revised guideline will apply to all residential developments, including flats, condominiums, serviced apartments, strata landed and landed housing.

Clarification notes: The GFA exemption for bay windows will be rescinded for ALL Developments.Bay windows and planter boxes incorporated in development applications submitted to URA before 07 Oct 2008 [revised effective date: 01 Jan 2009], which result in a Grant of Provisional Permission will continue to be evaluated under the old GFA guidelines.

CHANGES AT A GLANCECurrentRevision (wef 07 Oct 2008) [revised effective date: 01 Jan 2009]GFA exemption apply to: Bay windowsPlanter boxes
GFA exemption rescinded for: Bay windows in all developmentsPlanter boxes within a residential unit

GFA exemption continue to apply to:Planter boxes provided within non-residential developmentsPlanter boxes located within the communal areas of residential developments

(Text in blue inserted on 14 Jul 2008)


发个URA关于planter box and baywindow规则的帖子也要审核,真是


看你就整天搞装修的事了, 呵呵


你又换头像了?呵呵,我现在准备一些装修的知识,因为要管两个小孩,不能像没孩子的人等拿到钥匙再说,而且明年就出去上班了,到时候就没时间搞装修的事了,所以现在多关注一下,至少心里对装修有个大概概念


这个星期四开始我休息,你来我家吧,我煮点汤,还有几个拿手菜,可以边吃边聊


不能封阳台 不知道可不可以用可以推拉的钢化玻璃门门,还有那种隐形铁线的防盗网,不然小孩安全很担心:-(


边吃边聊,多让人向往,但是我知道现阶段这是不可能,除非我家小的睡着了,呵呵

我家早就轮流吃饭了,一般是我老公煮完饭后先去冲凉,我就带孩子先吃,我一边自己吃一边给小的喂,大的自己吃,我老公洗完澡后出来吃饭,他和我一起一边吃一边给小的喂,这样才能大家一起吃饭。

还是你来我家吧,我们坐在游泳池边聊。或者一起推孩子出去海边转,一边走一边聊,我发现推小孩出去比较省事,在家他们到处乱跑,我家小的还乱摸电门乱摸电风扇,危险的很呐。


应该可以,但是还是要征求物业同意,我看到我家一楼住户把小阳台用铝合金窗给封了。


但是饭还得吃呀,那天你儿子来我家也没玩到呀,吃了我们再出去


我吃饭很慢的,所以一般情况下不好意思去别人家吃饭。

以前在中国去酒店吃喜酒,一桌八个人都是同事,人家风卷残云唰唰唰吃掉三碗饭和很多菜,走了,最后就剩我一个在那里吃,我科长怕我不好意思,就一边喝茶一边坐我旁边陪我,她说:整桌人都走了,你还在这里吃,不知道的人还以为你吃了多少呢,其实我看你从头到尾就喝了一碗汤,夹了几筷子菜,到现在半碗饭都没吃完。

人家别人吃酒席都算改善生活,我却最不喜欢吃酒席,因为总是吃不饱啊,哈哈


阳台不要封啦,这是生活品质的象徵。。


阳台应该是不让封起来的。我想装个铁门,原以为随便找个人来装,颜色花色一样就好,被管理处恐吓说,如果没有完全一样,还会勒令我拆掉重做。。。晕哦,结果多花了一倍的价格找管理处介绍的做了铁门!
我也看到有人把阳台封起来,不过是装了一模一样的铁门而已,看起来感觉好像坐牢。。。我们这里规定的花色很像监狱的横竖条纹。


你们管理处好严格啊,我看我两家邻居的铁门好像不太一样啊,我家没装铁门,


我看到有人客厅和主人房的阳台都没封,但是厨房后面的晒衣服的后阳台用大玻璃封了。


我们家有一个院子,我好想封起来,隔成4个房间租出去,可以做成像北京的四合院那样的,
我想应该也不行。


你家住排屋吗?还是一楼?怎么会有那么大的院子?


底楼,有一个大院子。不让耕地种菜,很浪费。


可以买大花盆种花种菜,种葱啊辣椒啊什么的


晒衣服那个是service yard不是阳台


我家的房子是2009年下半年开盘的,那这个条例对这个有效吗?那为什么还是很多花槽和飘窗呢?难道是之前的设计没能及时改过来?还是拿地在这个条例之前,所以不受影响?


谢谢夕阳剪影,找来这么详细的资料,辛苦了


在中国,我们把客厅的阳台叫"阳台"(新加坡叫balcony),把厨房后的小阳台叫"后阳台"(新加坡叫service yard)。

客厅的阳台是拿来观景的,厨房后的后阳台是拿来晒衣服的。

你是真不懂,还是懂装不懂?


一直好奇 厨房后白凉衣服不会油烟味很重吗?


应该是不能封的吧,总之不能影响外观就是了

我们那个小区的人在想那能不能装invisible grill呢,这样家里有孩子的会比较安心呀


这位妈妈你火气好大


这两天火气是大


所以每次炒菜前会把衣服收回来,还好我们家一周只做一两次饭


我们的开发商同意我们装invisible grill


这样很好耶
我们这边不知道,facebook最近也没什么updates。。


是啊,我们打算所有的窗户阳台都装invisible grill,否则家里有小孩太不安全了。


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