最近，中国打工仔都大幅加薪，算下来和在这里打工都差不多了，是该回家报效祖国了。
回吧。。回吧。。。我也想回家呢。。。
有道理
加薪带来的是工厂转往劳力更便宜的地方，印度， 越南等等……
到时候工作都没有了， 谈什么薪水？
GWY加了。。。连退休工资都加了1000多啊。。。国内分业种的，我也搞不清楚。。
说是什么技术活的退休工资不加。什么加的。。总之不平衡的。。。
这样的话。我担忧的的就是恐怕私企也招不到人了。。。产能过剩。。制造业成本加大。。滞涨要来了。。
补充：公 务 员 自动被河蟹成GWY了。。。论坛刚发现的新功能。。大家不信试试
总会有这一天的， 政·府·官·员无能， 人口过多都是原因。
去富士康完成最后一跳
祖国是后·妈， 如果你不是精英人才， 回去死得很惨的。
看下最新的新闻：
国家税务总局：将对五类高收入者加强个税征收
国家税务总局于近日发布了《关于进一步加强高收入者个人所得税征收管理的通知》，《通知》中要求加强对财产转让所得、利息所得、股息所得、红利所得、经营所得等五类高收入者主要所得项目的个税征收管理。以下是《通知》全文。
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起征点低了。 年薪12万就开始高税了……
刚刚那个帖还说硕士6000一个月。。。。我这辈子也不会去弄个硕士。打死不回去~~~
回复 9# 嗨糖糖
不管生母还是养母，做子女都该孝顺，与其客死他乡，不如死在母亲的怀抱，管他是什么妈！！！！！！！！！！！！！
我没说我不回国， 但是你这样死心眼的爱国有点2。
爱国跟谈恋爱一样， 对方不爱你， 你也没必要死皮赖脸。
爱国是爱母亲， 移民才是恋爱！
谁回去啊！国内太不安全了， 连大餐馆的饮食都不卫生。上次好容易请了两个礼拜假，一个礼拜搭在医院里。
国内的工资,下两晚酒吧就没了= =…..
新加坡也在加薪啊。。。$0.50。。。
回复 26# taylorMaking
加S$0.50不错啦，我才加0.35
那。。。那。。。每个月不是要找回0。15给人事部~
国内加薪是好事，对我来说，还是买不起一块地板砖
我能买起地板砖时，回去再看看夕阳西下
我无语。。。。
有才能的人，到哪里都能生存，善良的人，走到哪里都有上主的眷佑
回复 33# khiam
其实，那些中小企业都不用怕的，因为很多产品别的国家已经不生产了。
前段時間C出現了最大一波中產階層大量移民流,這怎麽解釋?
回复 35# rejal
我说的是打工仔，中产阶层太复杂了，再说他们出国的原因、动机太多了。
想回家，但是好工作太难找了。 我又没有后台。
而且国内竞争比这边激烈多了， 每年的大学毕业生大把的。
一过35岁就没啥希望了，精英除外
回复 34# 大也
Hi
You will expect of merger of companies? Even yuan appreciate its value but it can never increase to more than US$0.40…………..
Don’t forget that China is a dense population and many still without permanent jobs……..
I wonder why don’t you quit your job now to take advantage of the situation?
Getting a job in China is a competition because of the population and guanxi!
回复 38# khiam
合并能淘汰差的，有何不可！比较两国的货币币值，应该看各自的购买力，1元人民币买一粒鸡蛋和一元美金买一粒鸡蛋，哪个更有价值？
在中国找工作并非什么都靠关系，自己有实力，自然能被重用。是金子到哪里总会发光的。
中国在进步，请不要戴旧眼光来看。
我已经准备回国了。
上有国 家政策,下有老板对策,最后还是没保障
回复 40# 大也
The problem is the country has dense population and how to get majority a job if these labor intensive companies shift to low cost countries such as Indonesia, Vietnam, Bangadesh and India.
Inflation can erode your income because what you earn buys you little things. There maybe social riots too if unemployment rate is high.
Export companies may have to find ways to make their work processes more efficient with lesser cost – through automation or increase the wage of the worker by one-third but he/she has to mulit-tasks..
Strong currency is good too because it can help to manage inflation since most of the goods are priced in US currency. Hence it is good for yuan to appreciate gradually to minimize the impact on local produce goods for export.
Local made items will become expensive hence consumers will opt for import items if there is no great variation of price.
Higher wage equates higher buying power. People will prefer foreign goods rather than local produce.
回复 42# khiam
不用担心加工企业外移，因为当今还没有一个市场如中国这般大，且有潜力。
让我们看看家电产品，刚开始都是日本产品，现在呢，还不都是国产的天下。中国的生产能力绝对第一。
回复 1# 大也
哦耶！！！
不是精英人才，回去等死
我就是其中一员~~
回复 44# 大也
You asked those who were here to go back since there is an improvement in wage recently……….. wonder why don’t you go back immediately to take such opportunity first but urge others to do so.
After you have settled down come to this website to share the good news with others; example: new salary in your hometown. This will enable those who are here to know what is the variation.
精英都出国了
我来两年了，中国那些同事们，也是那些月薪呀，ZF是ZF，老百性还是老百性，喊口号是＂特长＂
回复 50# 天才蛐蛐
一流人才不会跑，在外是孙，在国是爷，跑的都是二流三流，，，，还有在国内供不起房的，呵呵
下午和同事在ＱＱ上聊，她们还在忙着做东东，准备给ZF领导来检查看，我做了那么久，都很清楚啦，都是表面的纸上功夫，全是假的，还不是为了能拿每个月的月薪呀，做不好，钱包就少了，所以何苦呢，为了钱包不变少，ZF怎么规定就怎么做啦，呵呵
回复 48# khiam
我可以告诉你，在我身边的朋友回去的都能找到很好的工作。如果你需要资料我可以给你他们的email,你可以去问问。至于薪水，我的朋友在这里是1500新币，回家拿8000人民币。不要算兑换率，1500在这里能有怎样生活，想必你也明白。
还是一句话，不要以过去的眼光来看快速发展的中国，请问你上次去中国在什么时候？
回复 52# 无言she
支持
回复 54# 大也
在中国能有八千人民币，还跑来干嘛，如果是我，我也不来这里，呵呵，掩是在中国穷到付不出首付买房住，不大，就一房一厅即可，呵呵，在中国没这能力买呀，所以，就跑出来啦，感觉比中国好赚些，嘻嘻，等稳定啦，年老啦，就回啦，呵呵
me too。上海工作生活5，6年了。虽然对这里有感情。但是一年比一年房价高。实在是付不起首付。更供不起。所以准备去新加坡打工，看能不能留下来。(其实工资多少无所谓，够生活就行了，主要就是房子，再多工资，全交房贷了，有啥区别呢？）
未来中国怎么样谁也不知道····
怎么变政策。。对于我们普通人美什么很大变化··
中国的未来我感觉担忧还是多些。。
房子是民生问题。。。应该重视。。。新加坡ZF做的非常的好。不过国内已经在调控了。。特别是重庆~~
前几年忒恐怖了，房价高不说，质量更让人担忧。。上海的倒楼事件不说。。我自己租的房子自己是深有体会，新造的房子，晚上睡觉，楼上还是楼下的邻居叫 床声让人睡不着。。水管爆裂。。墙壁漏水。。太多事情了~一时半会儿说不完~~~(对比房价以及质量等等问题，高薪或者低薪已经没有太大意义了~)
都幾好啊，外面先有機會，看下現在C有幾腐敗了，就知道地人，爲什麽要出去了。。
一個連公眾權益都保障的ZF，可以為我們作地不會好多，只會叫我們不斷地付出。。。。。
然而回報呢？
回复 54# 大也
As I have said………….. not everyone is lucky…………… it also depends which vocation you are in and your qualification level.
It is easy to say then done……
What I know a manager in China earns around 4K to 5K RMB which equates to Sgp $1000+ (factory worker earns more than that)
回复 62# 天才蛐蛐
俺呀，是看不到中国的前景喽，还是平平淡淡过好自己的生活，因为俺在中国是最普通，最普通混不到房住的老百性，呵呵，在新加坡能混个房子住就满足了，这就是最基本的民生问题解决喽，呵呵
回复 63# khiam
看来我们的观点差的太远了，而且彼此所经历的也不同，也许我们应该找个时间，坐下来好好谈谈，如果你有兴趣的话。
不知道你来新加坡多久了，其实在新加坡买房子，也会面对首期的问题的，还有很多额外的费用等等，也不便宜啊！
回复 68# 大也
If there are more job opportunities and well paid job, why are many of our comrades still coming here or other countries to work?
Can you tell us what job are you holding now and your salary? Wonder is there any overtime claim and also is there any profit sharing and number of months of bonuses?
If you initiated this topic urging your comrades to return home to take advantage of the hike in wages, why are you still lingering here??????
Can a factory worker in China earns 4000 RMB a month?
家是要回的，但不是现在。
回复 69# 大也
只要有工作，就有公积金，还怕没房子住呀，好房买不起，还买不起差的呀，有的住就行了
回复 70# khiam
请问你是中国人还是新加坡人？
回复 70# khiam
我的主题，是鼓励而非强求回国，人往高处走，如果在新加坡有比在中国更好的发展，那就看个人的。
但请你告诉我那些在这里拿着工作准证，申请PR无望，每月只有区区S$1200左右，每天工作十多个小时，在扣除三餐住宿，还能有多少剩余，加上人民币不断升值，还要饱受相思之苦，忍受本地人白眼，你说他们是应该留还是走！
在国内和家人在一起，即使一份2000元的收入，我想活得也比身在异乡潇洒。
你说呢！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！
哈哈“`楼主我赞同你的讲法“所以下个月我就回家了“`
回复 4# 嗨糖糖
赞同!投资家会慢慢把厂地移去别的国家….
你说的这种情况， 确实回国比较好。
回复 74# 大也
what I know a factory worker in Singapore semiconductor can earn Sgp $30000 (Rmb 150000) in a year.
Imagine can a factory worker earn that much in China? I doubt a normal manager also can’t earn that figure.
When you initaite a topic, you should know what is your intention instead of misleading others.
Whenever there is an adjustment to Rmb to $US, Sgp$ will also adjust accordingly. It is still 1Sgp$ to Rmb 4.8++
回复 73# 大也
You should be in China now instead of in Singapore if you initiated such topic ……….
Can you tell us your occupation, your present wage and when are you returning?
Also don’t forget to share with us how much you earn in China too.
我走了。。。看到英文有点累。。哈
回复 79# khiam
看来你没有看明白我要说的，请在仔细读一下我写的。
回复 76# CharmElement
投资生产产品是为了什么？请问当今世上，哪一国的市场最具消费潜力？投资家会舍得中国这个市场吗？
回复 83# 大也
I want to know your salary and occupation because you claimed that you can earn much more in China than here…….
Why you are still here? You should pack and go to take this golden opportunity to be the first mover!
回复 83# 大也
Do you study economics? I am curious about your occupation and your salary because I wanna find out can you earn that much in China………….
回复 82# 大也
Rise in wages does not mean is good if inflation is high…………
Income is eroded.
回国虽然很多机会,但是并不是平等的给每一个人,至少我认识很多回国的朋友大部分又回了新加坡,而且工作还比以前在新加坡的工作更差,没有人是傻瓜,任何事情也不能肤浅的去想.
回复 87# khiam
请问你有去过中国吗？何时去的？
很想回家。
回复 89# 大也
Have you ever go to europe, downunder and us before because these countries most envious countries that offer abundant of opportunities?
Definitely I have been to china include shenzhen and hongkong on business trip.
I urge you better go back now and then share your new job opportunity which equates what you are getting now locally!
Tell us which college are you from, your occupation and your current salary……………… I want to find out can you earn around 150000 RMB a year……………………
This is important because you netcitizens can see the variations ………….
回复 89# 大也
Someone came back recently and complained about expensive housing………..
I wonder can you afford to buy a condo in five years time working there than locally?
回复 93# khiam [/b
看来你是本地人吧！一个生意人当然需要廉价劳工，既然你这么欢迎中国人来这里打工， 我替我的同胞们说声：谢谢！希望能善待他们，并能说服你的ZF可以让他们一直打工直到他们自己想离开为止，而非强制。至于本人我可以告诉你，在中国我的收入高过这里。来此并非是为了打工赚钱。一个与民争利、不能为那些曾经贡献自己来建设国家的国人承担养老责任的ZF是不能让人有归宿感的。这是一个论坛，我给出主题，是让大家来讨论，人各有志，不必强求。回去可能未必找得到理想的工作，但金窝银窝不如家里的草窝，叶落总会归根。
组团回？
回复 94# 大也
You must ask yourself why people willing to pay a sum of money to work without much information of a company………..
The exchange rate is attractive and the amount earned here is very much worthwhile.
Of course there are some who are not happy when it is not what they expected.
Venturing abroad always carries a risk………..
My family is in northern part of china…………. hence also know the development there too.
They are complaining of high food prices and soaring property market.
Which part of china are you from?
回复 94# 大也
The culture there is children must take care of the elderly when times come.
If you don’t strive hard to earn more when you are still young and energetic how can you cope with the inflation back with your meagre income taking care of your family and elderly.
Opportunity won’t happen every now and then.
Your country has done well to alleviate the poverty of many.
You should not make hasty decision urging others to go home because of recent appreciation in RMB.
You should take the lead by sharing with them your income there and here to convince them not just by playing with lip-service.
Also how can the wage be increased if the inflation is high. The most the increment is a few hundred RMB which is equivalent to Sgp $100 plus. This amount can be earned easily with two days of overtime work.
When wage is high, companies will opt for automation and retrench staffs or shift the labor intensive production plant to low cost country such as Indonesia, Vietnam and Blangadesh.
High inflation and high unemployment brings social unrest and riots. Try going to Guangzhou, you can see daylight robbery on the street and when nightfall, sometimes you can hear knocks on your door.
Tell us which city and province are you from……………..
这话我喜欢~恩恩~
回复 89# 大也
My family is there and I am always being updated.
Which province are you from?
不看了。。英文看的我脑子大。。。
所以我很纠结， 想回不敢回……
我也是~唉~愁人啊
回复 54# 大也
Are you a graduate from China top 5 university? If you are then should not be a problem.
Do you know that there are many new entrant graduates waiting for your position- competition! How long can you stay with a company with that type of pay package and the type of job you are in?
回复 44# 大也
There are always substitutes for consumers and relocation options for production plants to produce cheap goods……………
回复 31# 威斯敏德
You are right!
回复 40# 大也
In US you pay different tax rate in different city.
What is the purpose of working in a foreign land with high exchange rate? To remit the money home so that family members can have a better quality of life.
The culture there is children must take care of the elderly when times come.
If you don’t strive hard to earn more when you are still young and energetic how can you cope with the inflation back with your meagre income taking care of your family and elderly.
不要认为自己现在年轻，就认为可以靠努力打拼，人生并非会一帆风顺。机会也并非人人均等，那些来此打工的是在追求美好的生活，但如果在国内都能赚到同等价值的薪水，何苦背井离乡，我的主题是让那些在此打工的人知道国内的情况，要不要回也非你我所能决定。
顺便问一下，你一天工作多少小时？
你是工作为生活， 还是生活就是工作？
回复 106# Fryer
如果你的太太/先生要出国赚钱，孩子几年不见妈妈/爸爸，这样的生活质量算好吗？
回复 108# 大也
How long can you work abroad if you do not have H1 special pass?
Likewise,Sgp is the same and it is nearer to China.
A tinkle : you can’t expect to wish and dream happens together – very rare.
Can communicate through internet video ………….
回复 109# Fryer
请问你结婚了吗？有没有孩子？
我只知道，我在中国穷的付不出首付买房，养家更谈不上，所以，逼的没办法，只能选择跑出来，呵呵，至少跑出来有个自己的家，不怕没房子住，呵呵
回复 107# 大也
How old are they? You take care of them but can’t even provide quality of lives…. Worst still when they aged, where to get money in case of emergency such as sickness and hospitalization?
Even with insurance, the patient to pay first and claim later. Hence based on their meagre income how to support parents and ones family if he is married?
Do you think that it is easy for 40+ year old to get job here unless he is willing to work in construction sector.
回复 110# 大也
If you want to provide quality of lives then it is good that you work abroad for several years so that you can own a house/flat and some savings for starting business.
Very seldom you can have the best of both.
哇，看来新加坡真是个从农村走向城市的好跳板，是个脱贫的好地方
哈哈，怎么老有人跑这中文论坛混又装不懂中文呢
这。。。这。。。我不会看，可是会写啊~
斑竹别说我恶意灌水去就行。。。。
时间好慢啊，大家都不来啊，就我一个在这里顶。。。人多力量大啊
再发一会就不发了，。。。。无聊了
大家加油啊，我昨天顶了半天还是给别人当炮灰了。。。
好象就我现在没事。。。。。是不是都忙去了
下午上网的人好象不多呢
]呵呵，大家现在似乎都不活跃了。加油啊，一起来盖啊。
领导不在，好象就我这么闲呵呵
我是给大家打地基呢呵呵。
好慢啊，就我一个人啊。。。失望。。。
there is this english saying… to each his own…
华文叫。。。从一而终。。。
回复 213# khiam
机会那里都有，并不一定这里的机会就比中国多。上个星期刚送一个朋友回国，她在这里一个月1800，今天她告诉我下个月要上班了薪水4500人民币，地点：贵阳
回复 215# 大也
I suggest you go back home now………………. then prove to others that you earn more than them in your homeland.
Opportunities are plenty …………… are you outstanding candidate compare to others……..
Now RMB to Sgp is 4.97
回复 215# 大也
For your info…………… they gain experience from here hence there is a bargaining power.
You keep on arguing but do nothing about your return…………. Pack up and go back now. Find a job then compare what you get in five years from the day you start work.
I have a friend who can easily earn RMB 14000 a month but he left to venture in London. Money is only part of human wants…………….. depending how you which need come first – based on Maslow hierachy of needs.
What’s the point of talking and arguing but you still remain here…………… making yourself a laughing stock. Go back and prove to netizens with your figures.
Are you from city?
回复 215# 大也
Opportunities are plenty but there are many candidates applying too. Are you the best candidate for the job competing with young and energetic with higher academic qualification who is willing to start with lower wage…………….
The company you worked in will never commit to retrench staffs? High wage means higher productivity – cut wastage and improve processes, using comparable materials and machines that can perform several tasks or convertible to improve throughput.
Now SGP1 is RMB4.97. Inflation in China is escalating – housing becomes a burden and out of reach to many.
High exchange rate help to improve quality of lives to family members and also enable improved savings………
The person who initiated such topic should pack up and go home now and share the fruits with others that there is real value. No point saying that your friends earned comparable wages at home once returned home.
With meagre income how to take of the elderly at hometo meet end needs – Hospitalization also need upfront payment even it is subsidized by insurance coverage.
Staying abroad to work has limited period of time unless you are EP and PR.
回复 110# 大也
how old are you ? if you wanna look after kids and miss your wife…… then you should pack up immediately and head home…………… rather than work here.
回复 108# 大也
Be more pragmatic……………….. you can’t have both of the best……….
In the first place what makes you decide to come here?
You should stop defending saying that elderly need someone to care………… What is the purpose of staring at them when you can afford them quality of lives?
How long can you work here? It is limited if you are not EP holder.
You should packup and go home now.
新加坡欢迎你。。
我们需要你。。
谢谢您的贡献。